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And here's some more info on the range:

UPPER SADDLE RIVER, NJ (4/24/07) -- Onkyo has announced four new THX Certified receiver models to be introduced beginning this spring, incorporating a range of high-end features and core performance improvements designed to deliver the highest levels of performance available. These new THX Certified Onkyo A/V receivers will feature HDMI 1.3a compatibility, including internal decoding for DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus. Each will also feature a sophisticated set of internal video processing capabilities, with two of the models boasting the first inclusion of Reon-VX HQV processing in an A/V receiver. Three of the new models, the TX-SR805, the TX-SR875, and the TX-NR905, each feature THX Ultra2 certification, while the TX-SR705 is THX Select2 Certified.

From early design concepts to product rollout, THX and Onkyo worked together to ensure every detail of the receivers were mapped to the THX performance standards. And THX engineers spent countless hours testing and analyzing the receivers for sound quality, usability and interoperability. Each certified receiver includes a number of proprietary THX technologies, designed to compensate for the acoustical errors that occur when movies, music and games are translated from the professional studio to the home environment.

All four receivers are both XM and Sirius satellite radio ready, and will feature a comprehensive range of audio and video connections, including HDMI 1.3a switching for three (TX-SR705 and TX-SR805) or four (TX-SR875 and TX-NR905) HDMI sources. The TX-NR905 will also feature a second HDMI output for even greater flexibility. Each receiver is capable of accommodating single-cable pure-digital audio and video transfer from HDMI sources, including 1080p and Deep-Color™ capability. Additionally, each model will include the company's RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) communication protocol. This feature allows future integration of many system control functions between compatible components via the HDMI connection, and will also feature compatibility with Toshiba's CE-Link™ enabled 2007 Regza LCD TV line and Panasonic's EZ-Sync™ TV line, as well as similar protocols from other manufacturers to be announced later in the year.

Two of the new models, the Onkyo TX-SR875 and TX-NR905, will be the first A/V receiver models to include Silicon Optix's acclaimed Reon-VX HQV™ video processing. This sophisticated IC chip-based technology provides the receivers with current state-of-the-art video scaling and deinterlacing capabilities, including upscaling of all video sources to 1080p for output over the HDMI connection. Additionally, all video sources will also be upconverted to HD output via the units' component video outputs to accommodate video displays lacking an HDMI input.

The TX-SR805, TX-SR875 and TX-NR905 receivers will all feature a new dual push-pull amplifier configuration, coupled with a three-stage inverted Darlington circuit and top-of-the-line Burr-Brown DACs for outstanding efficiency and high current with very low distortion. Two of the receivers' seven channels can also be reconfigured for bi-amplification with compatible speaker systems. On the TX-SR875 and TX-NR905, these two channels can also be reconfigured for bridged operation with the front L/R channels for high power output.

Onkyo's new receivers will be the first models available to feature Neural-THX Surround™ decoding for broadcasts and gaming. This new surround sound technology allows for broadcast content to be transmitted in a two-channel format, and later decoded for up to 7.1 discrete audio channels, as well as enabling 7.1-channel audio support for many modern video gaming consoles.

For simplified setup, all of these models incorporate Audyssey Multi-EQ room acoustics correction, the most powerful built-in solution available for countering room distortion in dedicated home theaters. This technology uses an included microphone to detect and configure speakers in the room, and then adjusts each channel's level, delay, and crossover settings to best suit the room's acoustics. By incorporating measurements at up to eight points in the listening room, Audyssey Multi-EQ provides both frequency response and time domain corrections throughout the entire listening area, rather than just at a single position.

Additional features on the TX-NR905 include a high-current power supply with a massive toroidal transformer, built-in HD radio reception and a powerful set of networking capabilities for integrated home media systems. The receiver will include an Ethernet port for support of Internet radio and streaming multimedia, as well as additional control and multimedia functions to be announced later in theyear. There is also an included USB port to allow for the addition of USB-based portable audio players, and for the use of USB-based memory devices.

The Onkyo TX-SR805 will be shipping in May at a suggested retail price of $1099. The TX-SR875 will be available in June at a suggested retail price of $1699. The THX Select2 Certified TX-SR705 will be available in July at a suggested retail price of $899. The TX-NR905 will be available in August at a suggested retail price of $2099.

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now if only some higher end brands start bringing out processors that will do this

can't wait for all the big names to start getting their gear out there

i do know 1 brand that will be left way behind though :blink: (ok i'll let it go one day)

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now if only some higher end brands start bringing out processors that will do this

can't wait for all the big names to start getting their gear out there

i do know 1 brand that will be left way behind though :blink: (ok i'll let it go one day)

Rotel? Is that the one you're refering too?

Denon is close behind Onkyo with a lot of the same specs and even better, Eg Ethernet built into more of their models.

Looking forward to some reviews to help us make up our minds on which to go for.

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Rotel? Is that the one you're refering too?

Denon is close behind Onkyo with a lot of the same specs and even better, Eg Ethernet built into more of their models.

Looking forward to some reviews to help us make up our minds on which to go for.

mmm if i can guess correctly, i think johna meant marantz? lol. just guessing there.

the TX-NR905 include a high-current power supply with a massive toroidal transformer,

pitty this doesnt start at the 805/875 range, as marantz's avr in that price range is equipped with one.

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mmm if i can guess correctly, i think johna meant marantz? lol. just guessing there.

pitty this doesnt start at the 805/875 range, as marantz's avr in that price range is equipped with one.

Yes marantz is a good guess Wilco ;but muzzer is right :blink:

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Yes marantz is a good guess Wilco ;but muzzer is right :blink:

My current receiver is a Rotel.

I have looked into what's new that's coming from Rotel and it appears that they are a long way behind in terms of the capabilities that these Onkyo and Denon units will have Eg Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Ethernet, HDMI 1.3 etc. so I think I'll swap brands. I've had an Onkyo Integra series before when Integra was part of the Onkyo series and it was really good in it's time also. I think my short list will be either the 875 Onkyo of the 3808 Denon.

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Why does this receiver need a scaler. Pretty soon were going to have the source, reciever and display all with a scaler in it. I'd much rather see good bass management, decoders for ALL of the new sound formats and better SQ.

I have just read through the second article, man these things are PACKED with new technology, almost so much so they have left no stone unturned... very impressive!

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now if only some higher end brands start bringing out processors that will do this

can't wait for all the big names to start getting their gear out there

i do know 1 brand that will be left way behind though :blink: (ok i'll let it go one day)

thered be a pretty good bet that onkyo's higher end integra range pre-pro whihc is fully modular/customisable right now with plug in cards, will have options for all of the above. they are pretty pricey too unfortunately. leaving the likes of me jsut lookign to buy an avr the likes of this to get all the goodies in question.

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Why does this receiver need a scaler. Pretty soon were going to have the source, reciever and display all with a scaler in it. I'd much rather see good bass management, decoders for ALL of the new sound formats and better SQ.

I have just read through the second article, man these things are PACKED with new technology, almost so much so they have left no stone unturned... very impressive!

great to see the likes of onkyo going all out with this stuff.

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I can understand why some folks have said "you don't need Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA and HDMI 1.3 etc etc because you can just output straight from your source player to the receiver in PCM" but now that it looks like these codecs and interfaces are becoming available, it'll sure be worthwhile having them as a way to better "futureproof" your investment in a receiver. Surely the studios will use them more and allow the customer to choose where the decoding takes place.

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I can understand why some folks have said "you don't need Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA and HDMI 1.3 etc etc because you can just output straight from your source player to the receiver in PCM" but now that it looks like these codecs and interfaces are becoming available, it'll sure be worthwhile having them as a way to better "futureproof" your investment in a receiver. Surely the studios will use them more and allow the customer to choose where the decoding takes place.

well given none of the players do dts-HD MA as yet is sure hinting at it !

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i'll just hang backa while and see what comes out in the pre-pro range

but yea even an AVR and just use it as a processor should do the trick.

I have time on m side so won't rush into anything when the first lot get released

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i'll just hang backa while and see what comes out in the pre-pro range

but yea even an AVR and just use it as a processor should do the trick.

I have time on m side so won't rush into anything when the first lot get released

theres supposedly a nad T175 pre-pro coming as well. details sketchy but around july+ launch in the us. its early days for pre-pros I think. the avrs will come through first and pre-pros later.

I'd prefer a pre-pro myself but if tis too expensive for what theyre asking i'd likely jsut go an avr again wiht the goodies on board.

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theres supposedly a nad T175 pre-pro coming as well. details sketchy but around july+ launch in the us. its early days for pre-pros I think. the avrs will come through first and pre-pros later.

I'd prefer a pre-pro myself but if tis too expensive for what theyre asking i'd likely jsut go an avr again wiht the goodies on board.

I just read this morning that the NAD product equivalents (including the Pre-Pros have been delayed and they aren't due out until the very end of 2007 or possibly 2008.

I would have considered them but not now when the Onkyo and Denon's should be a fair bit earlier.

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I just read this morning that the NAD product equivalents (including the Pre-Pros have been delayed and they aren't due out until the very end of 2007 or possibly 2008.

I would have considered them but not now when the Onkyo and Denon's should be a fair bit earlier.

well thats a pity. but realistically if we are to get the AVRs this year pre-pros would probablt follow only later this year or more realistically next year I suppose.

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And here is an announcement of sorts from the Australian distributor of Onkyo:

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home_Cinema/Receivers/B4U3B4Q3

Appreciate that muzzer; according to page 2 it sounds like the onkyo hd dvd player will not be just a US model initially :blink: I am aprehensive that there will be many people who have dolby true hd hd dvd discs and want these decoded by the amp who will discover that the amp won't.I could be wrong but I think the reason the panny upgrade doesnt do dts hdma is down to the sigma chip used.More advanced chips from cirrus logic [the cs 49700]are just around the corner I read :D

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In its launch, Onkyo also expanded its $1,000+ A/V receiver selection by adding two price points long absent from its Onkyo-brand models. The Australian prices for these models will be abnnounced shortly. In other product developments, Onkyo has unveiled one new Onkyo-brand DVD player and three Onkyo-brand HTiBs, said it is reevaluating its Onkyo-brand DVD strategy, and is on track to offer its first HD DVD player later this year. It will carry the Onkyo brand name.

yes that is top news as well. and later this year not far away ! cant wait to see what that is like.

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now if only some higher end brands start bringing out processors that will do this

can't wait for all the big names to start getting their gear out there

i do know 1 brand that will be left way behind though :blink: (ok i'll let it go one day)

Poor old Rotel :D .Are they really lagging behind the other specialist manufacturers in this sector of the market?.From what I can see not really.It is certainly true that they appear not to be keeping up with the quality mass market manufacturers but then the specialist manufacturers never really have.

I still believe that manufacturers like Nad and Rotel provide a sound quality advantage over more mainstream products.

Should we expect to see every facility under the sun on specialist products?Traditionally that has never been the case : only facilities that are necessary and/or provide real performance benefit tend to find their way onto these devices.

While it is totally understandable that some consumers are frustrated at the lack of advancement in their preffered brands, from my perspective the market has been is such a state of flux with the new hd formats always just on the horizion and standards for connectivity and decoding taking so long to be set that it would have been a very foolish or just plain greedy specialist manufacturer that rushed product on to the market.

Lest I appear to be a Rotel 'fanboy' let me point out that I am rather mystified as to why their new Video processor doesn't support 1080p output and why their just released stereo pre-amp (RC1082) does not have ht bypass , both ommisions are large mistakes in my oppinion but I do think the tardiness on the ht side is understandable.

Gordon

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gordon, i don't want bells and whistles, i want a pre-pro that will decode all the new formats have hdmi 1.3 and great sq

thats what its all about for me.

You are correct that the mass market stuff is always first and higher end brands take a little longer to come out with something.

It will be interesting though to see what rotel will include with the 1099 (i dare say thats what it will be called).

I'm not a huge fan of Nad, but their master serious sure looks tempting and will be interesting to see what they come up with.

is rotel behind?? i think they are? look at their current range of dvd players. When was the first one that actualy included hdmi.

Mind you the 1092 looks to be a ripper but at $2699 i think a tad too expensive

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gordon, i don't want bells and whistles, i want a pre-pro that will decode all the new formats have hdmi 1.3 and great sq

thats what its all about for me.

You are correct that the mass market stuff is always first and higher end brands take a little longer to come out with something.

It will be interesting though to see what rotel will include with the 1099 (i dare say thats what it will be called).

I'm not a huge fan of Nad, but their master serious sure looks tempting and will be interesting to see what they come up with.

is rotel behind?? i think they are? look at their current range of dvd players. When was the first one that actualy included hdmi.but at $2699 i th

Mind you the 1092 looks to be a ripper.

hmm perhaps your right gordon re mass market brands. I wouldnt have put onkyo in the mass market bucket. perhaps they are now these days. but you have to admit they have taken a massie leap forward way beyond any other brand with the full support in regards surround formats and hdmi support.

wow john all those rotel model no's. I knwo one thing for sure I wont be buying a 1098 equivalent even if it did come out with all the features etc. mainly because the 2ch abilities of the 1098 dont interest me with a 2ch pre already in my system. Secondly with demoing I did I foudn it no better to my ears for ht than contenders half its price it retails for. there'd have to be good reason why I'd spend the $4k plus the 1098 type pre-pro's cost.

all that said for some reason the nad master series does attract, will nad come through with a fully equipped version one day ? who knows the current model cant even process audio via hdmi and is jsut a glorified switcher !

In all this have a sweet spot for HK. After owning a HK AVR for 5-6 years went auditioning all sorts for all sorts of money to only end up buyign a HK AVR again which have been very happy with.

As per rotel though not even a hint of anythign out of HK in regards the surround formats and hdmi v1.3 so who knows when we'll see anythign from them in that regard.

In ways I'm not in so much of a rush. got a hi-def player and it puts out decoded audio to my current AVR which I use as a pre-pro. If considering an AVR or pre-pro upgrade there would have to be good reasons behind the need to spend on what would be a $2k-$4k purchase.

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as for the purchase price of the 1098 there were reasons behind it

1st was going to be used for both 2 channel and HT that was untill i got to know you guys

2nd the design of it and how it was SUPPOSE to be upgradeable via cards

3rd the tv screen so if i had to do any setting changes during a movie i wouldn't have to interupt the movie to do so.

So depending on your priorities the 1098 i believe was worth the money

will i purchase another rotel item hmmmmmmmmm

like you will be very interested to see what NAD bring out, but lets face it Al, any descent pre-pro oout there will be in the range of $2.5-$4k with some more esoteric units alot more.

I suppose its like why we would happily spend $4-$8k on a 2 channel pre, but when it comes to HT we don't bother

or why some people spend a fortune on viewing pleasure and an all in one 5.1 solution

or why some people spend $60k+ on their sound and watch through an 80cm tv

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gordon, i don't want bells and whistles, i want a pre-pro that will decode all the new formats have hdmi 1.3 and great sq

thats what its all about for me.

You are correct that the mass market stuff is always first and higher end brands take a little longer to come out with something.

It will be interesting though to see what rotel will include with the 1099 (i dare say thats what it will be called).

I'm not a huge fan of Nad, but their master serious sure looks tempting and will be interesting to see what they come up with.

is rotel behind?? i think they are? look at their current range of dvd players. When was the first one that actualy included hdmi.but at $2699 i th

Mind you the 1092 looks to be a ripper.

Sorry John , certainly wasn't suggesting you were likely to be tempted by a few flashing lights and buttons.

My understanding was that despite Denon and Sherwood Newcastle show casing products with Hdmi 1.3 and onboard codec support at CES2007 the actual chips just weren't available for mass production at that time.As it turns out the Denon product was just a case and working display with no internals.I reckon it will be the end of 2007 ,at least ,before we see antything tempting for those of us with pockets deep enough( not me) and systems transparent enough to make upgrading worthwhile.

I agree re the Rotel DVD players , they seem to have had a lot of problems with that part of their range though again if you compare them to Arcam both companies seem to be following a similar strategy at this stage.

I have yet to hear either the 1092 or a pair of 1091's as I don't like bothering my old boss when I am not in a position to purchase but all reports are that the new 'digital amps are strong performers if somewhat different to Rotel traditional power amps.

Gordon

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as for the purchase price of the 1098 there were reasons behind it

1st was going to be used for both 2 channel and HT that was untill i got to know you guys

2nd the design of it and how it was SUPPOSE to be upgradeable via cards

3rd the tv screen so if i had to do any setting changes during a movie i wouldn't have to interupt the movie to do so.

So depending on your priorities the 1098 i believe was worth the money

will i purchase another rotel item hmmmmmmmmm

like you will be very interested to see what NAD bring out, but lets face it Al, any descent pre-pro oout there will be in the range of $2.5-$4k with some more esoteric units alot more.

I suppose its like why we would happily spend $4-$8k on a 2 channel pre, but when it comes to HT we don't bother

or why some people spend a fortune on viewing pleasure and an all in one 5.1 solution

or why some people spend $60k+ on their sound and watch through an 80cm tv

can understand the reason why you went the 1098 route john. and for many out there is one of only a few viable options if looking for a single box solution in a ht AV-pro with decent 2ch ability. as with the screen idea which I'm sure appeals to many.

I agree with you in regards any decent pre-pro beign in the $2-$4k region as is current. my difficulty is the last I demoed AVRs and pre-pros in the $2k-$8k region, I couldnt find much benefit at all spending any more than what a $2k AVR would provide as pre-pro for HT duties.

this certainly wasnt the case for me in regards 2ch. the $4k 2ch pre had easily identifiable benefits making the purchase well worth it for me. understand though as you say different people might have different priorities.

myself keen to see what benfit these next breed avrs and pre-pros bring. though just a bit sceptical I guess, wonderign jsut what they'll actually bring, jsut tryign not to get caught up in the hype I guess ! :blink:

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