keai Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) wondering any user of Monoprice HTP-1 in the forum, and anyone distributor of this processor in singapore? Edited October 26, 2020 by keai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock123 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Been reading rave reviews of this AVP. Dont think any local distributor yet if not will clock this lioa bro. Last checked SGD 6K all in with shipping seem VFM deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 likely 6.3k with GST, concern is no local support, if got prob, die liao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 21, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2020 It's popular on AVS. Not sure they are appointing distributors as I thought their business model was to sell direct and cut out distributors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Marc said: It's popular on AVS. Not sure they are appointing distributors as I thought their business model was to sell direct and cut out distributors? ya, seems so, not able to find distributors in their website. HTP-1 is the only "usable" (less issues) 16-channel Dirac Live processor at entry level, with prompt bug fixing track record, Arcam/JBL processors are just too buggy at the moment, based off AVS user feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 21, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2020 I have a JBL SDP-55 and I would agree with you. I only purchased it for Dante, which is now completely unusable. I do believe the next firmware update should resolve "most" of the bugs the JBL/Arcam platform has suffered from though. They've definitely taken their time with this next release. I was in touch with the engineers at Harman while they have been developing this. Unfortunately, due to COVID, they are all working at home with limited access to testing and resources. I think it has made it very difficult to solve and optimise what is a very complex product. I can say that random noises and bugs aside, the SDP-55 sounds spectacular. If your budget can stretch to the JBL or the Arcam, I think it might be worth waiting a little longer for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 ya, spec wise JBL is the best with dante, logic16, 9028 dac (not as good as AC X9 but quite decent), free tier 1 DLBC plus free future Dirac upgrades, but Dante and Logic16 not really useable now. after Arcam AVR/AV series released for 11 months and JBL SDP55 released for more than half a year, firmware 1.4 still buggy like hell. though Arcam claim they are working on a "serious" upgrade this time, I am not confident that the long list of issues can be resolved any time soon, and dont think dante is in their priority list since Dante user probably lesser. nevertheless, lets wait and see. Price wise, HTP-1 is more expensive than AVR10/20 and closer to AV40 in singapore, but SDP55 price is much higher in Singapore, for that amount of money, Lyngdorf 2nd hand might be a better choice if SDP55 still remain buggy with next firmware upgrade. Just my thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayleh Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How about Audiocontrol receivers? Any issues? Rarely hear about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 21, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2020 It uses the same platform as the JBL/Arcam but seems to have a different department managing the firmware. Definitely more stable than the JBL/Arcam at the moment according to AVS forum users. It's got a better DAC than the other two from memory, and no Dante, but not sure what other differences if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) as what Marc said, AC manage firmware differently, the version no also 0.01 higher (for example, version 1.39 for AC is the same as version 1.38 for Arcam/JBL) though the actual content is the same as Arcam/JBL. and seems there is some beta testing within AC before firmware release. In AVS less issues reported for AC X7/X9, but it could be also due to significantly less AC users, look at AVS AC X7/X9 thread, like a sleeping town, no much discussion there.... Edited October 21, 2020 by keai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayleh Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Not much mention of AC so wonder if they are worthy investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 X9 has the best dac (9038), but the price is very high too. Both X7/X9 got tier 1 DLBC included if I remember correctly, better than Arcam but spec wise, SDP55 still the best. dont know whether Peng will introduce X7/X9 to singapore or not, lets see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopidilo Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 wow, looks interesting. With Dirac Live some more. I assume it can support the Dirac BM module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, kopidilo said: wow, looks interesting. With Dirac Live some more. I assume it can support the Dirac BM module? I believe you refer to DLBC (Dirac Live Bass Control), yes, Arcam/JBL/AC/Monoprice all support DLBC, but Arcam and Monoprice need to pay for tier 1 and tier 2 license, cost USD499 and USD349, respectively if I am not wrong, however, DLBC is not working flawlessly in any of the above mentioned units yet, thats the worst part.... Edited October 21, 2020 by keai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 23, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 23, 2020 Big update coming for JBL SDR-35/SDP-55 this week (v1.42) - probably for Arcam too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Marc said: Big update coming for JBL SDR-35/SDP-55 this week (v1.42) - probably for Arcam too. wow, thats much faster than what they promised, thought new firmware wont be ready this month. have you tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 23, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 23, 2020 I haven't tried it yet (have to unplug the Trinnov so not easy to swap). Some beta testers have it already, but it should be officially released this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopidilo Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:12 PM, keai said: .... however, DLBC is not working flawlessly in any of the above mentioned units yet, thats the worst part.... So bad ah... Wonder what's the issue they face..... Are there any other known brands that does that didn't have issues with DLBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 23, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 23, 2020 The release notes also mention you must download the latest version of Dirac Live, so there is likely some additional bug fixes relating to DLBM in there also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, kopidilo said: So bad ah... Wonder what's the issue they face..... Are there any other known brands that does that didn't have issues with DLBC? stormaudio seems doing well with DLBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Marc said: The release notes also mention you must download the latest version of Dirac Live, so there is likely some additional bug fixes relating to DLBM in there also. lets see how is the response from Acarm/JBL users on new firmware, I would be very surprised if Arcam really manages to resolve the most funtion issues with 1.42, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wechnivag Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Isn't the monolith HTP1 US voltage - need to use a transformer in Singapore? Similarly the monolith power amps looks very good but same voltage issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, wechnivag said: Isn't the monolith HTP1 US voltage - need to use a transformer in Singapore? Similarly the monolith power amps looks very good but same voltage issues... HTP-1 no need, 110/230, power amp yes, only 110 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 12:51 PM, Marc said: I haven't tried it yet (have to unplug the Trinnov so not easy to swap). Some beta testers have it already, but it should be officially released this week. seems 1.42 firmware successfully resolved the atmos lock issue based on the user feedback, and more stable/usable than 1.40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Change the title to "16 Channel Dirac Live Processor with Bass Control - Arcam/JBL Synthesis/AudioControl/Monoprice" so we are not limited to Monoprice HTP-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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