tsi-dsg Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I believe many of us will most likely spend more on equipments and cables, and very often pay much lesser attention to racks, come to think of it, many manufacturers are actually trying to emphasise on how well their products are being isolated to reduce unwanted vibrations etc, the same goes for racks, a rack is like your speaker cabinet and the gears resting on top are like the crossovers and drivers of a speaker, a well isolated rack will definitely bring alot of improvements sonically. A well built rack ain’t gonna be cheap, and not practical if the rack cost as much or higher than any of your gear, so just work around your ideal budget, just need to pay abit more attention to racks or platforms, there are many wallet friendly options available, but also take note that every material used impose a certain character to the sound. Wood,aluminium,steel,ganite,carbon fibre, acrylic etc all have different sound characteristics. Footers will be another cheaper alternative to achieve a certain degree of improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest francishuang Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Let's not forget the looks, must be pleasing to the owner as well! Had a good rack, worked well and looked pretty. But when I shifted the system into a smaller area, it suddenly looked too big and became an eyesore. It really affected my enjoyment and In the end, sold the rack and changed it to something more pleasing to the eyes for a smaller space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyr11 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Looks nice and solid! . How much did u pay? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk under $300 shipped to SG. some blemishes here and there, (light scratches and scuffs), but overall quite happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tane0019 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Custome Made wooden AV rack from China with in-built back panel to mount LCD TV. Been using this for quite a few years. Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colossus Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 under $300 shipped to SG. some blemishes here and there, (light scratches and scuffs), but overall quite happy with it. That’s good deal. U mentioned it’s from taobao, u have the link? Thanks ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyr11 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 ^^^^^^^^ PMed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keai Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 ^^^^^^^^ PMed. can PM me too bro? thanks! Sent from my CLT-L29 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyr11 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 didn't think so many ppl keen, i'll post here, just to share. as below; https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.56fa2e8dpzkZiD&id=576875222633&_u=a2kp7fqjc835 i used tb sea shipping, cos heavy, but need to pay gst. full set of 3 shelves and shipping is about $280 i think. shipping was about $50. actually i saw the cheaper ones first but the tubes i think are hollow ($100+ for the same setup), this is slightly more solid. also come in white color option i think. you search his for sale items. some additional pictures of finish, scuffs and separate items to setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock123 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 didn't think so many ppl keen, i'll post here, just to share. as below; https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.56fa2e8dpzkZiD&id=576875222633&_u=a2kp7fqjc835 i used tb sea shipping, cos heavy, but need to pay gst. full set of 3 shelves and shipping is about $280 i think. shipping was about $50. actually i saw the cheaper ones first but the tubes i think are hollow ($100+ for the same setup), this is slightly more solid. also come in white color option i think. you search his for sale items. some additional pictures of finish, scuffs and separate items to setup. Rack looks good! Thanks so much bro. yah heavy item tb sea shipping make sense. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 TAOC ASR spot the difference ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 TAOC ASR spot the difference ;D Brother. The 2 more empty platform for your new toys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 No new toys. i just haven't setup properly. Its for my BDP and CDP. still need to re-arrange. so have you spot the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhu Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Looks like the 2 sets on left are the real McCoy ;D What's the price difference by multiples ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atx2 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The left set 1 & 2 rack (darker Color, Hexagon bar) is the older ver, right side is the Latest version ( lighter Color , round bar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 haha. all are Real Deal. the 2 sets on the left are ASR-2 and the one on the right most is the latest ASR-3. notice the light reflections and the columns. ;) Yeah atx2 got it right. anyway the platform can flip either side. 1 side silver and other side dark grey. :) http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=295065.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfnc Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Does the ASR-3 offer a discernible improvement over the ASR-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 i have not had the chance to do proper A & B to identify whether there is audible difference. due to cable lengths and using other type footers. But looking at what TAOC did to upgrade and improve from previous versions. i would say Yes, it should have a difference. let me upload the pictures i took during my assembly process then i can post them here later. spent some time converting the pictures so can fit in smaller for forum viewing. else too big fill 1 whole page. let me prepare a brief write up. http://www.taoc.gr.jp/en/pdf/catalog/ASR3-En_2019-Aug.pdf here is the pdf on the ASR-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfnc Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saycheese78 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Assembly pictures are the most objective way to show the difference. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Lazaroo Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Was wondering how audiophile brothers here have changed HiFi racks through the years for practical reasons or for tweaking to get best sound quality. How many of us have used Metal/Wood structures with metal/Fiberboard/glass/granite slabs. And whether Consoles, 4 legged or Tripod racks are preferred. Some are Modular which is easy to store away and also easy to change heavy component by removing the higher tripod I have been using from day one the Classis modular tripod rack which originally came with fiberboard and affer being influenced by some posting in this Echoloft website switched to granite slabs bought from either Balestier Plaza or Shaw Plaza many years ago. The granite is known as Indian Black Granite slabs or Indian Black Galaxy Slabs with very tiny white/silvery specks. Its heavy with thickness of 18mm and measure 18 by 20 inches. The Classic I or II cant remember which with 4 modular tripods is very sturdy being able to carry these 4 heavy loads over the years. Now just like to know if granite slab is the best for density or if the experience of audiophiles have debunked this myth. Any bro. would like to share his experience of this audio furniture and advise. Of course some cost as little as $200/ and the hi end category may be 10 times this entry level. I been having my Hifi rack for past 20 years, hand carried knock down from South Korea and 5years ago bought and additional rack used from Burmester. My rule of thumb is get the most sturdy rack you can find, not those HiFi rack with spikes they are not sturdy. When I say sturdy that is if you place a turntable on top and shake the top of the rack your table should still be playing. I have seen friends who own racks which users spring and they shake alot like a yeo yeo. These are all B.S. racks which some manufacture claim to have high performance like e.g SolidSteel with spikes on every shelf.These do not improve your sound quality. It's all in the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gencopura514 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I been having my Hifi rack for past 20 years, hand carried knock down from South Korea and 5years ago bought and additional rack used from Burmester. My rule of thumb is get the most sturdy rack you can find, not those HiFi rack with spikes they are not sturdy. When I say sturdy that is if you place a turntable on top and shake the top of the rack your table should still be playing. I have seen friends who own racks which users spring and they shake alot like a yeo yeo. These are all B.S. racks which some manufacture claim to have high performance like e.g SolidSteel with spikes on every shelf.These do not improve your sound quality. It's all in the mind. I have to agree on this conclusion as it is common sense approach and is underpinned by logic. In this instance in my opinion, a simple and easy test is to put a glass of water on a rack and slap one of the vertical pole to see if the water ripple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1chen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 In this instance in my opinion, a simple and easy test is to put a glass of water on a rack and slap one of the vertical pole to see if the water ripple. I like that and they just don't come cheap. Once you get a heavy and good rack, that is one of the end of the journey for sourcing for a rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxerfan88 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 In this instance in my opinion, a simple and easy test is to put a glass of water on a rack and slap one of the vertical pole to see if the water ripple. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YL Ang Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Have been using this brand, Heritage series for my four tier double wide and the amp stand in Sapele finish. Superbly crafted and sturdy and very heavy https://www.boxfurnitureco.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest francishuang Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 This company build the cabinets for devore speakers too. Very good workmanship Have been using this brand, Heritage series for my four tier double wide and the amp stand in Sapele finish. Superbly crafted and sturdy and very heavy https://www.boxfurnitureco.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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