jan97 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.phileweb.com%2Fnews%2Fd-av%2F201801%2F17%2F43086.html&edit-text= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htfreak Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Finally Denon releases something which can allow me to retire my 7200WA and 2309 combo needed to power the ATMOS height speakers and free up valuable console space. Need to offload my 4520 first though before getting this or my CFO will skin me alive. Jan97, does this Monster run hot over extended use as my console has limited height clearance. You running 7.1.6 in your current setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie Howser Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Is the Marantz 8012 same as the 8500 in a different badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Afraid not Lower DAC Two less channels of amps Process 11 channels Older DSP chips Can't do both auro and atmos setups. Think of it as a 7012 with a toroidal and better caps - same ones as the 8500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Finally Denon releases something which can allow me to retire my 7200WA and 2309 combo needed to power the ATMOS height speakers and free up valuable console space. Need to offload my 4520 first though before getting this or my CFO will skin me alive. Jan97, does this Monster run hot over extended use as my console has limited height clearance. You running 7.1.6 in your current setup? 5.1.4 at the moment.Warm to touch at -10db volume after 2 hours.Want to load 13 speakers, better allow some space clearance for heat dissipation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desray Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 5.1.4 at the moment.Warm to touch at -10db volume after 2 hours.Want to load 13 speakers, better allow some space clearance for heat dissipation. Yep...we are talking about 13.1 discrete channels, it will be extremely unwise to place the AVR in TV cabinet. Bring it up where it can breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desray Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I just read there is a "new" DSP mode called DTS Virtual:X which requires a firmware update meant for this model alone. Interesting...And of course, this time round all 3 immersive audio playback will operate with a switch of a button - yep, I'm talking about Auro 3D no longer need to be a paid upgrade this time. Considering the premium that user need to pay for this latest flagship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 The development of X8500 for those who can read Japanese. excerpt: 高橋:まずデジタル電源などは10年前よりも高効率化、低ノイズ化が飛躍的に進んでいますので、小型化、高性能化が進んでいると言えます。 さらにオーディオ回路の設計手法も当時の設計と今の設計とは少し異なってきていると思っています。 ●どんな点ですか。 高橋:以前は信号系の回路の間にバッファーを使ってノイズ対策をしていました。 今は高品位な音声フォーマットの良さを活かすべく、なるべくストレートにして、回路に余分なものは何も入れないようにしています。 これにより高品位なコンテンツが持つ魅力が、より色づけなくスピーカーまで伝えることが可能となります。 さらに大信号出力時の急激な信号レベルの変化にも忠実に対応できるように電流リミッターも入れないように設計しています。 保護回路として、全13チャンネルの全部に独立して温度モニターを入れることで安全性は担保しています。 ●サウンドマネージャーが変わってから初のフラッグシップモデルということで音も新しい方向になっているのでしょうか。 高橋:はい。バッファーをできるだけ排除した設計にすることで、サウンドマネージャーである山内が提唱するスペーシャス、ビビッドという新しいコンセプトはしっかりと反映されています。 また、昨今はグローバルな意見を採り入れて、ヨーロッパを中心にエンドユーザーからさまざまな意見を聞きながらサウンドチューニングしています。 しかし、従来のデノンファンの方の期待にも応えられるように核となる部分はしっかりと残して音作りをしています。 その結果AVC-8500Hで実現したサウンドは、現在のデノンのフラグシップの名に相応しいものであると自負しています。 特にこのダイナミックなサウンドはフラッグシップモデルならではの物量なくしては得られないものでしょう。 Wall of text here: http://pr.denon.com/jp/Denon/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=518#.WptiqOeYOUk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I just read there is a "new" DSP mode called DTS Virtual:X which requires a firmware update meant for this model alone. Interesting...And of course, this time round all 3 immersive audio playback will operate with a switch of a button - yep, I'm talking about Auro 3D no longer need to be a paid upgrade this time. Considering the premium that user need to pay for this latest flagship... Auro 3D is not in at this time, need to wait for another 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desray Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Auro 3D is not in at this time, need to wait for another 2 months. It's supposedly a free update...not upgrade. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Is the Marantz 8012 same as the 8500 in a different badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Auro 3D is not in at this time, need to wait for another 2 months. You have any demo Auro 3D material, so that i can verify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wow...sound like a totally "new beast" altogether. Definitely worth checking out myself. Some details of what went into making this amp: Lovely feeling knowing the dedication and heart and hard work that went into it: AVC-X8500H開発者インタビュー - Denon Official Blog: http://pr.denon.com/jp/denon/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=518#.WpuirpNuYcl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Bro, this time round, no need +2 gain for the center channel ;D Are you going for marantz AV8805? Pls don't tempt me with 8805.... ;D BTW, what subwoofer are you using bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Pls don't tempt me with 8805.... ;D BTW, what subwoofer are you using bro? 8805 its here already! ;D. At S$5100++. Using KK 808 at the moment. Will be changing to MK x12 or the Arendal Sub 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 oei oei. go start another marantz 8805 thread if you also buy it. ;) ;) sorry all. still unpacking since moving into new place. messy still. everything will be up. got some new goodies to trial as well. wifey definitely not happy. like bro jan97 mentioned this is 1 solid AVC. i never buy such top range before. too many new stuff all at once... overwhelming... slowly 1 by 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 oei oei. go start another marantz 8805 thread if you also buy it. ;) ;) Sorry bro DJQ ;D. I want to see your personal views on the X8500H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 like bro jan97 mentioned this is 1 solid AVC. i never buy such top range before. too many new stuff all at once... overwhelming... slowly 1 by 1... But don't you realised that you did the right thing? (Audio) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Did anyone receive a FW alert today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BadEnglish Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Did anyone receive a FW alert today? Not for 7200W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgate1624706109 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 8805 its here already! ;D. At S$5100++. Using KK 808 at the moment. Will be changing to MK x12 or the Arendal Sub 3. No siok lar bro watching action movie with single 8" subwoofer eventhough driven by top flagship AVR8500... I have plan want to upgrade my current subs. Price wise for the same 12" driver JLe112 (×2) > higher than SVS sb2000(×3) So which one will u bet for good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 IMO the twin E112 works very well. Furthermore most AV amps only have two outputs and can only calibrate for two of them. You could use another sub with the centre channel but is calibrated as part of the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 No siok lar bro watching action movie with single 8" subwoofer eventhough driven by top flagship AVR8500... I have plan want to upgrade my current subs. Price wise for the same 12" driver JLe112 (×2) > higher than SVS sb2000(×3) So which one will u bet for good? Mr colgate, I am not a bass freak. ;D. Maybe that's me, HT is not all about bass. Dialog clarity, spaciousness , micro details,refinements and dynamics are more important to me. At the moment, I am still happy with the 808 with chapter 8 , JW chapter2.It still tickles my balls with its textured bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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petetherock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 https://www.spill.hk/audiovisual/denon-avc-x8500h-review/ https://post76.hk/news/2018/02/denon-avc-x8500h-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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