ronildoq Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just found this interesting group and read 75 pages so far. Been happy with my Denon 4308 for 10 years until I read all these pages. Now itchy to upgrade. :) Can anyone comment on the benefit of switching from 4308 to X4300H? What audio improvement can I expect? Trying to reduce budget by buying previous model. I mainly use it for HT with 7.1 Wharfedales, probably not keen on Atmos yet as most streaming is only in 5.1 which is processed as Dolby Digital+. Thx You will experience a leap in performance coming off 4308. Your question will be why? The answer lies in the internal DAC, processing power, HDMi chips used that allows for greater bandwidth plus the audyssey xt32 room correction software alone far surpasses any older models. The good part about the older models, they are built to last, good quality components, compared to the current made in China ones. But no matter how good the components used, it cannot keep up with advancement in technology , the technology itself is the main reason on why an upgrade is inevitable...it’s just a matter of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 In terms of absolute stereo sound quality, IMO, there may not be a big jump in performance. The 4308 was a solid performer. For HT, the main advantage will be the XT 32, and the additional options for the top sound layer. If you stick to 7.1, the advantages start to diminish. You will get more bang for your buck if you upgrade your speakers / subwoofer.. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctv Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Thanks for all your comments about upgrading from 4308. Will do more research on the pros and cons vs budget. Upgrade amp also depends on how many atmos shows are available on Netflix, etc. Three new question 1. is atmos coverage adequate using only 2 height speakers? 2. Height speakers must be ceiling mounted or can I use surround speakers on very tall 2.5m height shelves in front? 3. I m not an audiophile so my speaker requirements are quite basic, what brands would be considered a grade better/higher than Wharfedale Diamonds with denon. I will go audition later. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Thanks for all your comments about upgrading from 4308. Will do more research on the pros and cons vs budget. Upgrade amp also depends on how many atmos shows are available on Netflix, etc. Three new question 1. is atmos coverage adequate using only 2 height speakers? 2. Height speakers must be ceiling mounted or can I use surround speakers on very tall 2.5m height shelves in front? 3. I m not an audiophile so my speaker requirements are quite basic, what brands would be considered a grade better/higher than Wharfedale Diamonds with denon. I will go audition later. Thx Speaker placement determines the quality of the end result. You can't expect fabulous sound if you can't shift your speakers. No info on your speakers, budget or room details, hence the radio silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Denon 8500 SRP is 6k :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pismo Mac Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 What was the price of the last flagship? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 What was the price of the last flagship? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk IIRC someone posted some prices a few posts ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pismo Mac Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Guess I’ve been out of touch with the market for too long. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 :o [embed=425,349] [/embed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Start watching around 10:00 for the AVC 8500 information. 27kg! Thick panels ! Copper plates around the power section. Griffin Lite 32 bit DSP chips! 32 bit up-conversion: http://www.analog.com/en/products/landing-pages/001/adsp-sc58x-adsp-2158x-series.htmlAround the 25:00 it can consume 2800W to power all 13 channels ... alt=:ohmy:https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/uploads/emoticons/default_ohmy.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pismo Mac Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 If it can do that, probably worth the $6k, won’t need a power amp anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecpaye Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Hi all, Need some advice! Can 6400 connect these speaker configuration? L,C,R,RS,LS,RRS,LRS,HL,HR,HLS,HRS and VOG It can, how to connect on the back of the amp. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctv Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 How often has Denon updated the avr recently, is it annually? Especially the X2,3,4,6 series. I think the X?400H series was released last year. Thx Sent from my KFDOWI using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 my 2cts, all entry to mid range models every year replaced with another model. top flagship models every 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XvipeR Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Hi all, Need some advice! Can 6400 connect these speaker configuration? L,C,R,RS,LS,RRS,LRS,HL,HR,HLS,HRS and VOG It can, how to connect on the back of the amp. TIA 6400 only support up to 11 channels. U can either configure to 11 channels for Atmos setup with no VOG or 10.1 for Auro 3D setup with no LRS & RRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecpaye Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6400 only support up to 11 channels. U can either configure to 11 channels for Atmos setup with no VOG or 10.1 for Auro 3D setup with no LRS & RRS. Hi XvipeR, Noted and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 It's here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJQ Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 save for review updates... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Wah! boss, fast hand fast leg! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just collected. No time to setup ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan97 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Transformer size for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BadEnglish Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Damage to your wallet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Nice.. The build of this amp is really much better than the average AV amplifier. The chassis, the footers and even the trap door have receieved a lot of care. Despite only using the same caps as in the 7200, the transformer is much heavier and this bodes well for the power supply. My review: http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2018/03/denon-avc-x8500h-review.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ah.... right. Like this Mah. One time good good... buy the right thing!! Not buy the cheapest Mah... (Audio) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopidilo Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Wah :o lucky avr, lucky owner ;D Looking forward to your impressions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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